代stranger0429兄post AE-1初步心得

[argentala]

STRANGER兄最近一直忙著帶營隊，託小弟轉po:P
以下為轉述
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呵呵 今天剛送到，趕著就照了幾張相片，照的不好多多包含。

我剛剛配了er4p聽了一聽，簡單的說，第一印象是
AE-1 真的讓er4p進步很多，在我看來大概是40%的進步(不負責任評量)。

左右聲道更分離且音場變得更為立體，音樂裡的細節也更清楚。
基本上我覺得AE-1的聲音特性比較柔和，而且對低頻的量感也增加很多，
我們都知道er4p有著潛深既深，細節豐富的低頻，
雖然經過3個月的 run-in 後 er4p的低頻又能稍微增加一些，
但er4p並沒有像HD600那樣富有低頻衝擊性。

但是在我用AE-1接er4p的時候，
我有點懷疑戴在我耳朵上的到底是er4p或是HD600？
AE-1使ER4P增加了大量的低頻衝擊感，讓他聽起來更像hd600的低音一樣，
而且er4p還能保持著原本低頻的細節。

以上是初步的感覺，我再慢慢的補充。

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AE-1 基本資料
http://www.headamp.com/portable_amps/ae1/index.htm

[熾羽絃]

看到包裝~比Xin的SM3好太多了
想跟SM3比較一下
不過配置的確比SM3好些~
較不會像SM3擠在一團

[tehsuen]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

[熾羽絃]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

這個的售價是350USD吧?
跟Xin的SM3價格一樣~不過SM3多了4開關~
不知這款可否換OP?
目前小弟尚未比較過~不敢妄下評論

[herroyuihk]

誘惑還真多
來這邊還真的是要一次攻頂
否則........會越花越多錢....

[熾羽絃]

誘惑還真多
來這邊還真的是要一次攻頂
否則........會越花越多錢....

呵~當然要攻頂啊

剛看了一下設計~input有後方RCA跟前方3.5頭的設計
有讓家用者&外出用者的選擇~開關也設計在後方~
算是較SM3用心的設計~不過或許是較大些的緣故吧



AE-1的內部電路板



SM1內部電路板(找不到SM3的內部)

[phone迷]

AE-1除了適合ER4P以外
有搭配其他的耳機試過嗎?

[davidshan]

擠在一團,最短的佈線才能做到低失真啊:)
那種精緻的設計不是每個人都能做出來的

[熾羽絃]

AE-1除了適合ER4P以外
有搭配其他的耳機試過嗎?

這種隨身耳擴大多都是以ER4做調音的~我想最適合的還是ER4吧

擠在一團,最短的佈線才能做到低失真啊:)
那種精緻的設計不是每個人都能做出來的

的確是這樣~SM3的內部精密的嚇人.....
亂成一團.......
每次看到您在Xin的討論區~
說SM3像吸毒一樣
常常看您對SM3的評論
才剛吸毒的我就上癮了
沒吸毒的那一段時間~就會有戒斷症狀
AE-1的現身~
毒更深的SM4很有可能就快出現了

[stranger0429]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

I'm in USA now
And you can't replace the op.It's a module.
I drived my hd600 today,and the first impression wasn't bad.
But I felt that I really needed a good destop CDP now.But I'm so far away from home now.....

[tehsuen]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

I'm in USA now
And you can't replace the op.It's a module.
I drived my hd600 today,and the first impression wasn't bad.
But I felt that I really needed a good destop CDP now.But I'm so far away from home
now.....

又是一個牽著一個
耳機弄玩 找耳擴 好的耳擴找完 又要找 cdp啦...

這款也是基爾摩設計的產品嗎?
還是指示headamp另外弄來做的?

[h88147]

又是一個牽著一個
耳機弄玩 找耳擴 好的耳擴找完 又要找 cdp啦...

這款也是基爾摩設計的產品嗎?
還是指示headamp另外弄來做的?

http://www.headamp.com/portable_amps/ae1/index.htm

[stranger0429]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

I'm in USA now
And you can't replace the op.It's a module.
I drived my hd600 today,and the first impression wasn't bad.
But I felt that I really needed a good destop CDP now.But I'm so far away from home
now.....

又是一個牽著一個
耳機弄玩 找耳擴 好的耳擴找完 又要找 cdp啦...

這款也是基爾摩設計的產品嗎?
還是指示headamp另外弄來做的?

Actually I have had a CDP already,it's Philips CD472 upgraded.Accroading to the thread on headfi,ae-1 is based on Kevin Gilmore's unpublish portable amp AE(American Eagle).That's why it named AE-1

Gilmore himself didn't design ae-1,but he provided a lot ideas on it.Justin also used a lot of passed experiences and ideas from the other products.Besides,they applied some new ideas in ae-1,such as the amp module.

Therefore,ae-1 is more like a "transportable" amp.IMO,AE-1,SR-71,and SM3 are in the same level.It just depends on your taste and your setups.But I could say that AE-1 is aboslutely a winner on battery life(120hrs).RCA input is also a attractive feature to persuade me to get this tiny thing.

The sound of AE-1 is warm and smmoth,but the sound feature could changes a lot by using different cables.I connected my er4p with ae-1 by using cardas mini-mini cable.The sound I heared is so much alike a audio technnica's phone.The vocal performance is so charming and sweet,you can easily feel the singer's feelings and emotions.I never thught of that er4p could make such a beautiful melody on the mids.

But it chaneges to another different sound feature while I connect with StrightWire mini-RCA cable.It's more cold and detailed,and you'll get more bass impact on this setup.But it's not totally a cold sound,it's just not as warm as connecting cardas cable.As I said before,ae-1 is a warm amp,therefore you can still hear a little bit warm sound.

[tehsuen]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

I'm in USA now
And you can't replace the op.It's a module.
I drived my hd600 today,and the first impression wasn't bad.
But I felt that I really needed a good destop CDP now.But I'm so far away from home
now.....

又是一個牽著一個
耳機弄玩 找耳擴 好的耳擴找完 又要找 cdp啦...

這款也是基爾摩設計的產品嗎?
還是指示headamp另外弄來做的?

Actually I have had a CDP already,it's Philips CD472 upgraded.Accroading to the thread on headfi,ae-1 is based on Kevin Gilmore's unpublish portable amp AE(American Eagle).That's why it named AE-1

Gilmore himself didn't design ae-1,but he provided a lot ideas on it.Justin also used a lot of passed experiences and ideas from the other products.Besides,they applied some new ideas in ae-1,such as the amp module.

Therefore,ae-1 is more like a "transportable" amp.IMO,AE-1,SR-71,and SM3 are in the same level.It just depends on your taste and your setups.But I could say that AE-1 is aboslutely a winner on battery life(120hrs).RCA input is also a attractive feature to persuade me to get this tiny thing.

The sound of AE-1 is warm and smmoth,but the sound feature could changes a lot by using different cables.I connected my er4p with ae-1 by using cardas mini-mini cable.The sound I heared is so much alike a audio technnica's phone.The vocal performance is so charming and sweet,you can easily feel the singer's feelings and emotions.I never thught of that er4p could make such a beautiful melody on the mids.

But it chaneges to another different sound feature while I connect with StrightWire mini-RCA cable.It's more cold and detailed,and you'll get more bass impact on this setup.But it's not totally a cold sound,it's just not as warm as connecting cardas cable.As I said before,ae-1 is a warm amp,therefore you can still hear a little bit warm sound.

用cadas線會推er4p推的像ath耳機聲音走像阿?
聽起來不會是我喜歡的類型..

還是等s兄回台有機會再去聽聽吧
跟基爾摩有關的產品都想聽....
對他的kgss bhss dynahi等都有怨唸
就是沒有銀彈

[stranger0429]

用cadas線會推er4p推的像ath耳機聲音走像阿?
聽起來不會是我喜歡的類型..

還是等s兄回台有機會再去聽聽吧
跟基爾摩有關的產品都想聽....
對他的kgss bhss dynahi等都有怨唸
就是沒有銀彈

Well,you can use another cable
I bought 2 cables which were StrightWire mini-RCA and Cardas mini-mini from headroom just for AE-1.Because I just like the sweet mids,therefore I keep using cardas cable to match my er4p.

As my HD600,I prefer to use StrightWire to match it.IMO,StrightWire sounds a little bit like Zu-cable.By using this cable,I could make hd600 more detailed,and more suitable for long time period listening.This cable cotrols the bass part of hd600 very well.

As I said,you can't replace the OP to adjust the sound feature of AE-1,because it's moduled.But the different cables do make a lot differences on the sound,although you can still enjoy the basic feature of this amp-warm and smooth.The best thing is you can still have the detailed sound and smooth sound at the same time.Ae-1 is built to those wants to have a long period litening experiences.

[tehsuen]

S兄 有比較過其他同級的隨身耳擴了嗎?
SM3 SR-71等
滿好奇其中的差異!!

[stranger0429]

S兄 有比較過其他同級的隨身耳擴了嗎?
SM3 SR-71等
滿好奇其中的差異!!

I didn't get into the world of hi-end very long,so it's just my second amp.My first amp was ac-cute(preodered version)

Basically,the difference of price really means something.Even in headfi,there was not too much reviews of ae-1 so far.Especailly the camparison reviews,they were even much rare.But someone there did a quick review,and he thought ae-1 sounded very alike the larger Gilmores,but ae-1 was a bit fuller.

He tried ae-1 with the Meridian 588 and the HP-2, and the AE-1 didn't limit the rest of the setup.AE-1 was warmer and fuller than Gilmore lite and Gilmore V2SE in his memory.

Above was the only comment I could find about the camparison of ae-1 and the orther amps so far.I am so sorry that I could not give you more explainations about how great ae-1 is.I could only say that I won't regret about every cents I spent on this tiny amp.

p.s.I drived my hd600 with ae-1 today while listening to "Four seasons".I felt like what the exact feeling I wanted.I think my next step will be Gilmore Reference,although it could take me a lot of time to approch this goal.

[stranger0429]

S兄 有比較過其他同級的隨身耳擴了嗎?
SM3 SR-71等
滿好奇其中的差異!!

I didn't get into the world of hi-end very long,so it's just my second amp.My first amp was ac-cute(preodered version)

Basically,the difference of price really means something.Even in headfi,there was not too much reviews of ae-1 so far.Especailly the camparison reviews,they were even much rare.But someone there did a quick review,and he thought ae-1 sounded very alike the larger Gilmores,but ae-1 was a bit fuller.

He tried ae-1 with the Meridian 588 and the HP-2, and the AE-1 didn't limit the rest of the setup.AE-1 was warmer and fuller than Gilmore lite and Gilmore V2SE in his memory.

Above was the only comment I could find about the camparison of ae-1 and the orther amps so far.I am so sorry that I could not give you more explainations about how great ae-1 is.I could only say that I won't regret about every cents I spent on this tiny amp.

p.s.I drived my hd600 with ae-1 today while listening to "Four seasons".I felt like what the exact feeling I wanted.I think my next step will be Gilmore Reference,although it could take me a lot of time to approch this goal.

[tehsuen]

S兄 有比較過其他同級的隨身耳擴了嗎?
SM3 SR-71等
滿好奇其中的差異!!

I didn't get into the world of hi-end very long,so it's just my second amp.My first amp was ac-cute(preodered version)

Basically,the difference of price really means something.Even in headfi,there was not too much reviews of ae-1 so far.Especailly the camparison reviews,they were even much rare.But someone there did a quick review,and he thought ae-1 sounded very alike the larger Gilmores,but ae-1 was a bit fuller.

He tried ae-1 with the Meridian 588 and the HP-2, and the AE-1 didn't limit the rest of the setup.AE-1 was warmer and fuller than Gilmore lite and Gilmore V2SE in his memory.

Above was the only comment I could find about the camparison of ae-1 and the orther amps so far.I am so sorry that I could not give you more explainations about how great ae-1 is.I could only say that I won't regret about every cents I spent on this tiny amp.

p.s.I drived my hd600 with ae-1 today while listening to "Four seasons".I felt like what the exact feeling I wanted.I think my next step will be Gilmore Reference,although it could take me a lot of time to approch this goal.

有機會試試用stax聽吧..~~

沒考慮dynahi??
Gilmore Reference 到底跟dynahi有沒有關係
兩者是完全不同的設計嗎?

[stranger0429]

有機會試試用stax聽吧..~~

沒考慮dynahi??
Gilmore Reference 到底跟dynahi有沒有關係
兩者是完全不同的設計嗎?

I will think about it.Eletrostatic phones are pretty new stuff for me,I have never tried them.Maybe I should take them into my considerations

Actually I don't know a lot about Gilmore's amps.But I think I really like the Gilmore's sound feature.Now I am a big fan of Gilmore....

[ned]

Gilmore Reference 是dynalo的全平衡版本
dynahi 是dynalo 的下一版本

[bryan.tw]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

這個的售價是350USD吧?
跟Xin的SM3價格一樣~不過SM3多了4開關~
不知這款可否換OP?
目前小弟尚未比較過~不敢妄下評論

熾羽絃弟，這傢俬的樣子看起來怎感覺比SM3優？

[熾羽絃]

哇 又是一個新選則
到時候拿來跟sm3等比一筆吧!

整個弄回台灣花了多少阿...
headamp的產品 ~~....

這個的售價是350USD吧?
跟Xin的SM3價格一樣~不過SM3多了4開關~
不知這款可否換OP?
目前小弟尚未比較過~不敢妄下評論

熾羽絃弟，這傢俬的樣子看起來怎感覺比SM3優？

比較過才知道......不能妄下評論
我想應該買哪種都不會後悔
不過SM3以後可能會出現SM4可以升級

[stranger0429]

熾羽絃弟，這傢俬的樣子看起來怎感覺比SM3優？

比較過才知道......不能妄下評論
我想應該買哪種都不會後悔
不過SM3以後可能會出現SM4可以升級 [/quote]

And AE-1 could be upgrade by replacing the OP module.It's pretty easy,just like replacing the OP

Anyway,if we just talk abot the sound,I still think SM3,SR71,and AE-1 are in the same level.It's just up to your favor or what's your setup.But if we look at the specs,AE-1 will be a winner except the size of AE-1 is a little bit larger than SM3.

The battery life and the RCA input are two definitely winning features over SM3

The showing up of AE-1 doesn't mean you don't have to think about SM3,or want to wait for the coming of SM4.I prefer to think that we just have more choices,and it's always a good thing to have choices.

p.s.Talking about the size,SM3 will be no longer the smallest one around 1 month if the coming of Hornet is on schedule.

[stranger0429]

Headfi thread
http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showthre ... 378&page=1

Looks like at least AE-1 could compare with SR-71,and is in the same level(Although the author thought AE-1 blew SR-71 away)

The other wonderful thing of AE-1 is the volume knob with volume balanced at the low end.SR-71,Corda,SM can't do that.

p.s.I forgot to mention that AE-1 can do loop out.It's a interesting function which you can take AE-1 to be a preamp.You can see the details of loop out in the thread